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Old 04-12-2006, 10:23 AM
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What am I missing? Easy raise against....anyone.
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:08 AM
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What am I missing? Easy raise against....anyone.

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You've read these boards -- what's he calling your raise with?
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:12 AM
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I AM RETARDED. I READ THE HAND WRONG. I THOUGHT WE HAD A FLUSH EVEN THOUGH OP CLEARLY SAID "I have no spades.".

So, yeah. Just call.
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:14 AM
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I AM RETARDED. I READ THE HAND WRONG. I THOUGHT WE HAD A FLUSH EVEN THOUGH OP CLEARLY SAID "I have no spades.".

So, yeah. Just call.

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I almost made the same mistake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. If we had spades, I raise here and probably (?) cap if given the chance. I really expect we'd have heard from a flush or two pair/a set on the turn.
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:59 PM
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From reading these boards surfbullet comes across as a very standard player. Standard players play passively OOP with marginal hands. The info isnt that important imo. In fact playing passively OOP with medium pairs is so frequent that its probably redundant information. Especially considering surfbullets posts in this forum.

FWIW I also play passively OOP with marginal holdings.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:15 PM
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Like any good player I am sure surf mixes his play up. Just giving my intial read on the villian in the hand so other posters have the same info I had when making a decision. Also by posting as much as surf does he gives way more away about his play and tendencies than one general statement could ever say. On to the rest of the post though....

Yeah sorry for the confusion in the OP but I do NOT have a flush.

My initial reaction here was to fold. What is his range here? And why if lets say he has a four or a smaller pair such as fives or sixes is he betting the river? Does he expect me to pay off with A high on a 3 flush paired board. Also if he had a J or eights or nines I would have heard from them by now I think. A Jack with a weak kicker is a maybe.

So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:18 PM
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So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?

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He's a TAG. He knows you're a TAG. As a general rule, that means that at a minimum 10% of his odd-looking plays will be goofy bluffs. I don't think folding here would be a tragedy, but I think that it's marginally +EV to call. It's a raggy board, he could donk here trying to chase you off of A-high, or even a medium pocket. Probably not, but I think you have odds to call.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:51 PM
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So am I really going to be good here 20% of the time against a good thinking player?

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Make up your mind -- I thought Surf was the villain in this hand.

Thank you, I'll be here all week.
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