Internet Poker... doomed from Day 1

[jb9]

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My response commented on the poster's logic, not his opinion. But speaking of opinions, contrary to the hippy pc logic you seem to espouse, not everyone's opinion is equally valid, esp if it is based on flawed logic.

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Flawed logic?

Like conflating someone's actual statements (e.g., about software) with a different concept (e.g., books)? Or assuming from statements someone made that they were actually proposing an argument and then proceeding to attack the argument you imagined into existence using logical fallacies that you try to pass off as sound logic...

[Gregatron]

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My response commented on the poster's logic, not his opinion. But speaking of opinions, contrary to the hippy pc logic you seem to espouse, not everyone's opinion is equally valid, esp if it is based on flawed logic.

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Flawed logic?

Like conflating someone's actual statements (e.g., about software) with a different concept (e.g., books)? Or assuming from statements someone made that they were actually proposing an argument and then proceeding to attack the argument you imagined into existence using logical fallacies that you try to pass off as sound logic...

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The argument I was addressing was that an advantage that one person has that others may not have access to is unfair. I argue (though sarcasm) this is logically flawed and stupid. Saying that I was conflating books and software is itself a strawman (see link above) -- the poster's logic had already done that.

[PlayaHata]

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My response commented on the poster's logic, not his opinion. But speaking of opinions, contrary to the hippy pc logic you seem to espouse, not everyone's opinion is equally valid, esp if it is based on flawed logic.

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Flawed logic?

Like conflating someone's actual statements (e.g., about software) with a different concept (e.g., books)? Or assuming from statements someone made that they were actually proposing an argument and then proceeding to attack the argument you imagined into existence using logical fallacies that you try to pass off as sound logic...

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JB9 thank you so much for your support. but it is unneccessary. No matter what you say this ignorant twit will continue to argue his ideas, and is too stubborn to hear otherwise. I just ignore the posts that have no logical arguement and only aim to mock and taunt. Thanks again for defending me, but it is unneccessary. I just dont read past the first sentance.

I really liked your posts by the way, great arguments and well written.

[JOEL_]

I have to agree with you PlayaHata,

If all these tools were provided by the site itself then that's another story.

[Our House]

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If all these tools were provided by the site itself then that's another story.

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Bah. You beat me to it.

[bulldawgblue]

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If all these tools were provided by the site itself then that's another story.

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Bah. You beat me to it.

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Unrealistic.

[4_2_it]

Our house,

So using your logic regarding HUDs, I must be cheating because I spend time posting on a poker website and reading poker books. 80% of the players on line don't that either. Using something that is available to all is not cheating or unethical.

The sites provide EVERYONE their own hand histories. What people choose to do with that information is their own business. If PT weren't available, I probably would have set up my own database......

[PlayaHata]

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Our house,

So using your logic regarding HUDs, I must be cheating because I spend time posting on a poker website and reading poker books. 80% of the players on line don't that either. Using something that is available to all is not cheating or unethical.

The sites provide EVERYONE their own hand histories. What people choose to do with that information is their own business. If PT weren't available, I probably would have set up my own database......

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there is a very big difference between a poker strategy book and PT and PA hud. i respect you as a poster, im pretty sure you know this, but you are stretching the arguement by comparing books to a computer program.

[Our House]

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Our house,

So using your logic regarding HUDs, I must be cheating because I spend time posting on a poker website and reading poker books.

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Nope. Feed your brain all you want. Don't get help while you're playing.

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80% of the players on line don't that either. Using something that is available to all is not cheating or unethical.

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Really? AIM is available to all. So are simultaneous cable and DSL connections. So are everyone's hole cards and IP addresses....if you are smart enough to get past the encryption. I'm not, so I guess that makes you a better poker player than I am.

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The sites provide EVERYONE their own hand histories. What people choose to do with that information is their own business.

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Really? Does the site give you the hand history with an attached message that says "Here, this is yours. Whatever you do with it is your own business."? I think it's quite the contrary.

[PlayaHata]

to all the advocates of PT, i have a question.

i have seen many posts about players who discuss PT in table chatrooms. they are chastised for shedding light to the fish. if PT is ethical and 'available' to all players, then why is a player who discusses PT and informs new players about such programs so quickly reprimanded?

is it maybe because it gives the PT user an advantage over the nonuser? isnt this unfair?

if it isnt, please discuss why it is fair for one player to withhold information about a program that, when used correctly, adds benefit to ones playing ability.