Last one, another weirdish one

[Sporky]

i raise this utg a fair amount 5 handed but probably not with people that caliber of loose behind me.

i would fold the turn, your outs could be very tainted because very possible holdings for a loose passive would be QJ KJ KQ. the pot is small and even if your straight outs are clean i don't see it being worth the bb.

not to mention hearts possibly suck for you now.

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i would fold the turn, your outs could be very tainted because very possible holdings for a loose passive would be QJ KJ KQ. the pot is small and even if your straight outs are clean i don't see it being worth the bb.

not to mention hearts possibly suck for you now.

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For some reason I didn't notice a king would put 4 to a straight on board and I'd split with a jack, also probably didn't think enough about ROI when he occasionally hits, or already has a boat when I hit. I agree the turn looks like a fold.

Anyone like a limp PF?

[Sporky]

sure, limp looks fine to me. those guys were like 70/0 or something right?

[Nick C]

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i would fold the turn, your outs could be very tainted because very possible holdings for a loose passive would be QJ KJ KQ. the pot is small and even if your straight outs are clean i don't see it being worth the bb.

not to mention hearts possibly suck for you now.

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For some reason I didn't notice a king would put 4 to a straight on board and I'd split with a jack, also probably didn't think enough about ROI when he occasionally hits, or already has a boat when I hit. I agree the turn looks like a fold.

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I thought of that, but it kind of looks like trips, doesn't it? Why does this guy have to have a gutshot to go with that? (I suppose it could be an strangely flop-checked ace or a slowplay instead.)

That said, I don't mind a turn fold. You have implied odds and RIO working against each other (in what proportions, I don't know), and the decision seems close to me.

[Sporky]

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I thought of that, but it kind of looks like trips, doesn't it? Why does this guy have to have a gutshot to go with that? (I suppose it could be an strangely flop-checked ace or a slowplay instead.)

That said, I don't mind a turn fold. You have implied odds and RIO working against each other (in what proportions, I don't know), and the decision seems close to me.

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he doesn't have to have a gutshot, but the fact is that these are very possible holdings. the fold doesn't seem close at all to me, you're getting less than stellar odds even if all your outs were clean.

[Nick C]

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I thought of that, but it kind of looks like trips, doesn't it? Why does this guy have to have a gutshot to go with that? (I suppose it could be an strangely flop-checked ace or a slowplay instead.)

That said, I don't mind a turn fold. You have implied odds and RIO working against each other (in what proportions, I don't know), and the decision seems close to me.

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he doesn't have to have a gutshot, but the fact is that these are very possible holdings. the fold doesn't seem close at all to me, you're getting less than stellar odds even if all your outs were clean.

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If your outs are clean, you have the immediate odds to call. Well, barely, and I guess maybe not once we take rake into account, but it is close. And it's not like Villain is going to fold trips or whatever else he has on the river, so if our outs are clean, we have some implied odds too.

[Nick C]

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Anyone like a limp PF?

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Against this group, I don't mind it.