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Old 04-03-2006, 01:28 PM
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You guys that argue how good or bad a review is determines how much traffic/replies it gets are seriously deluded. There is no correlation at all.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:35 PM
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You guys that argue how good or bad a review is determines how much traffic/replies it gets are seriously deluded. There is no correlation at all.



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Quality + film interest has a serious correlation to how many views / replies they get. There are quite a few reviews from you i haven't read because they are movies everyone and their brother has seen a dozen times and reviewing the film is just silly. Also i think how long it has been since the last film review sometimes matters as well.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: tell me what you think of splitting \'a&e\' into a separate forum

The review traffic has a lot more to do with who cares about the movie. Kingpin, however awesome, is a little old to really get people going.
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:45 PM
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The review traffic has a lot more to do with who cares about the movie. Kingpin, however awesome, is a little old to really get people going.

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Anything old is very unlikely to get a lot of responses, simply because nobody has ever heard of it. And, strangely enough, many many people refuse to watch black and white movies, bizarre as that sounds to me. Many refuse to watch movies with subtitles, which also sounds bizarre to me but at least I can understand it somewhat.

So even a great review of a great movie can easily get no responses. Quality can be the least important factor in provoking responses. Heck, I'm not sure a review of a porno film wouldn't get just as many responses as a review of many classic films.

And as someone noted, if a review is good, often there's nothing to add. It might even be the worst reviews that get the most responses!
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Old 04-03-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: tell me what you think of splitting \'a&e\' into a separate forum

db,

"I remain unconvinced by your arguments"

What elements of my arguments do you disagree with? Blarg, Matt, me, tdarko, PDPG are just a few of the posters who have explained why OOT will lose much of its interest to us if it is no longer the center of A&E discussions. Do you not believe that? Do you not think others share that sentiment? Do you not think that would have impact on OOT traffic?

"as you remain unconvinced by mine"

Huh? I believe I have agreed with most of your arguments. Separating the A&E forum would create a popular forum that would on average have a higher level of intelligent discourse than OOT. Isn't that your general point?

Again, I'm curious which of my specific points explaining why a split would likely reduce total traffic to 2+2 you disagree with.

As for elwood's post, he pretty much hit the nail right on the head in terms of the analysis that an online company does in making a decision like this. First step in the analysis is something I did very early on in this thread. Take the existing asset (OOT). Write up a description of what that asset becomes after the change. Is that asset still as compelling as it was prior? If not, how much less compelling is it and is the change significant? This is a basic analysis that is done all the time by content/discussion-based sites.
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:06 PM
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-- El D.

Okay, simply put, I don't think things will change that much in OOT. I really don't see it as degradation, I see it as enhancement (of OOT AND 2+2)

And I do think a lot of OOTers would actually like it (yeah I know this is a lame-ish posit, as hardly any have piped up here: from the way this thread seems to be going, it feels like me and a couple of others vs the rest), and I'm sure a lot of non-OOTers would (which we agree on, I think).
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:08 PM
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Okay, simply put, I don't think things will change that much in OOT.

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I don't understand how you could possibly believe this. Could you please explain how/why you think OOT will not change (that much)?
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:45 PM
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Okay, simply put, I don't think things will change that much in OOT.

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I don't understand how you could possibly believe this. Could you please explain how/why you think OOT will not change (that much)?

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Because you can still post in OOT exactly what you post now. Why do you think it will change, given that?
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:46 PM
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All, Here's an anecdotal example of a forum split:

When I was a full time online bookseller (from 2002-2004) eBay's community forums were a great resource in the begining. There were about 30 different forums, 2 of which I frequented, "booksellers" and "packaging and shippping" as those were the 2 that applied to my business.

Now, there are approxiamtly 100 different forums

http://pages.ebay.com/community/boards/index.html

If were still in the business and wanted to keep up on discussions in my field, I'd have to frequent:

-Booksellers
-Packaging & Shippi ng
-Half.com
-Seller Central
-Part Time eBay Sellers
-Building an eBay business.

In addition, the off topic forum, has been split into around 6 random forums.

I am getting back into the business somewhat now, and I am overwhelmed by trying to poke through 6+ different forums rather than just 2 to find the information I need. I have given up on the community boards there, and many other big eBayers I know have done the same.

I realize that this is just one isolated story, but I felt it could serve as an example.
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Old 04-03-2006, 03:12 PM
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-- El D.

Okay, simply put, I don't think things will change that much in OOT. I really don't see it as degradation, I see it as enhancement (of OOT AND 2+2)

And I do think a lot of OOTers would actually like it (yeah I know this is a lame-ish posit, as hardly any have piped up here: from the way this thread seems to be going, it feels like me and a couple of others vs the rest), and I'm sure a lot of non-OOTers would (which we agree on, I think).

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2 out of every 3 forum posters disagree
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