Three hands from 20$ 180

[Slap My Jack]

Hand 1:

You played this hand completely weak or too trappy.

This call preflop is usually horrible, but fortunately there are a bunch of callers making it so you get 5 for 1 at the very least plus any implied odds. And you are only playing this for set value.

Make a real bet on the flop, or go for a strong checkraise. Don't donkbet and hope donks will reraise in a family pot.

Why did you check this turn?

Are you trying to act scared of a Q and then checkraise? Then people really know you have a monster. I think there are enough players in this pot that you could at least bet out for half the pot on the flop.

If you are going to check/call here, I think you're being too trappy for your own good, and you're missing out on value by playing it like this. There are enough people in the pot that you should be able to take a normal aggressive line here and get paid off.


Also, a turn card could scare away your action, and not betting enough on the flop might not make them feel potcomitted.


Hand 2:

I don't know. Might be considered a 'read dependent' hand. I think I spite call here sometimes if I'm below the stack average. You see all kinds of retarded crap limp-pushing in these things. Or if he has QQ or better, then I spike a jack to suck out and call the guy an [censored].


Hand 3:

I don't feel I can give a good response for this one, except I hate the min-checkraise here.

[NoahSD]

I agree with everything slap said.

[Ross]

hand 1 Debatable as to whether or not you should have called with the 3's but now you have a monster, your bet on the flop was small & got 2 callers but you cannot count on them betting out. If either has AdKd handing them a free card is terrible play. Bet out between half and 3 quarters of the pot.

Hand2 Depends on the player but limp reraises in my experience = KK AA or maybe AK although I have pulled it on a few occasions with other hands generally JJ is going to be at best a coin toss. By the way if your opponent has AA this is poor play as he is already heads up.

Hand 3 Hate this if you put the button on a steal reraise pre flop if he comes back at you fold. Calling leaves you in this mess. You are now in a horrible position you are pretty much pot committed and my guess is you are behind but you have never put your opponent to the test (I also hate the min check raise). Can you fold yes because there is another short stack you might sneek in front of if making money is your aim no if you want to win this thing stick your money in a and pray he has a T with a lesser kicker.

[FBP]

Hand1: Preflop yeah it's obviously for set value only getting great odds on the bb.
Flop i bet, went too fast so i didn't size the bet better that was bad yeah. 1200-1800 better? Also the board is really draw dry so i m not too scared of being outdrawn.

Turn well this is were i tried (gotta learn and try new things) being tricky considering stack size i felt there was a good chance i'd stack two guys at once with the check. And it's supposed to look plain "2 flop callers means i'm beat, i give up", not playing the queen really. I build up the pot on flop a little and now let people value all-in/bluff.

I'm not actually scared at all at any point postflop (although set overset happens i don't watch this out), just trying to find a line to get all their chips in there. There is the standard bet => push turn or river or check raise flop push turn. Man i was proud of this check lol, but i'll gladly take any input good or bad thanks either way.

Obviously from your reply i was quite wrong in how i tried (or you mean i shouldn't even be tricky sometime).

Hand2: This is not a limpraise from the guy, converter f..... up, the vilain is BB and i really am UTG.


Hand 3: I probably shouldn't have put "Hero???", as this is mostly a line question. I rarely call a raise OOP at this stage of the tournament, so i miss a little experience in how to handle those situations. All of this hand can be argued and i'd like to hear your ideas, this is the hand which probably offers the most place for different ideas i feel.

And the guy is loose, so i'd really hate to reraise and see him call then i miss flop 2/3 and am left OOP in the dark with only pushing as an option really... How much would you reraise? Cause the pot is already 8k when it gets to me.
Sounds like a situation where a reraise pf is a push no? If i reraise i haven't got a pot sized bet left.

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Hand2: This is not a limpraise from the guy, converter f..... up, the vilain is BB and i really am UTG.


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Right i didn't understand why you said raise 4BB in hand 2. I'm opening UTG, the vilain is BB and push after everyone fold around to him.
Otherwise yeah my standard preflop is 3BB+1per limper.

[Slap My Jack]

Since hand 2 wasn't a limpreraise..

I don't think KK pushes here, and people are action desperate with AA so I am not sure if we see that here too often. Paranoid QQ/JJ might push. I've seen medium pairs do this a lot (JJ-88).

AK/AQ might be doing this.

I have less of a problem with folding here now though.


And one justification for raising more with JJ preflop is because with JJ/QQ if AK/AQ/AJ/Ax calls and misses the flop they will fold, so you make your money preflop with these.

[betgo]

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Hand2: This is not a limpraise from the guy, converter f..... up, the vilain is BB and i really am UTG.


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Right i didn't understand why you said raise 4BB in hand 2. I'm opening UTG, the vilain is BB and push after everyone fold around to him.
Otherwise yeah my standard preflop is 3BB+1per limper.

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I thought the raise with JJ was a raise at an UTG limper due to the converter mistake. For an open raise, 3xBB is fine. Some people like to raise more with medium pairs, AK, and maybe AQ, figuring they will be hard to play with a bad flop. This is so common that I think this is a tell. Also, I don't mind getting callers with hands like that. It depends on your style.

Since it wasn't a limpraise, I would call the overbet push. There is more chance it is a lower pair or AK/AQ than a higher pair. The fact that use raisd UTG concerns me, as he may figure you have a big hand and will call against his bigger hand. However, there are enough donks the first hand of a 20/180 that I think you have to call.