What About Mukasy's Position on Waterboarding?

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I realize its not quite the same. But you be surprised at how realistic this training can be and how many people really get immersed in it, so I dont think its a completely useless comparison.

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I think it would only be useful in the sense that you get the physical experience. But there's more to it than that. The psychological aspect of it is essentially missing.

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And no that isnt my position. I think its a component and honestly I dont have a bright line standard to offer. But lasting damage would be a pretty big red flag.

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Does lasting psychological damage count or does it have to be physical damage?

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Surely it is not only the residual damage, it is the pain inflicted and experienced that is the issue!

Sen. Edward Kennedy added: “Make no mistake about it: Waterboarding is already illegal under United States law. It is illegal under the Geneva Conventions, which prohibit ‘outrages upon personal dignity,’ including cruel, humiliating and degrading treatment. It is illegal under the Torture Act, which prohibits acts ‘specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering.’ It is illegal under the Detainee Treatment Act, which prohibits ‘cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.’ And it violates the Constitution.” He went on: “Waterboarding is slow-motion suffocation with enough time to contemplate the inevitability of blackout and expiration—usually the person goes into hysterics on the board. For the uninitiated, it is horrifying to watch, and if it goes wrong, it can lead straight to terminal hypoxia. When done right, it is controlled death.”

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This is as bad as the inquisition> Of course under pain you will admit to anything including the fact that there are WMD's in Iraq. This is sheer barbarian behavior. The USA, in this way, does not belong to the civilized world. They are at the same level as terrorists! The very fact that it is even an object of discussions/arguments make the US a barbarians nation, nothing more!

C'mon people don't participate/tolerate these abysmal tactics. Stand up for what the US did and can stand for!