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Old 11-01-2007, 01:50 PM
JDesab JDesab is offline
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Default Re: High Stakes Poker thread (10/29 - spoilers possible)

no you are wrong.

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But show a player making a few preflop folds and a nitty postflop fold and he's "scared", "outclassed", "uncomfortable"

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a few? do you understate intentionally?

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I guess nobody there had any idea of my reputation and playing style, because I have never been accused of being a nit before that day. Usually I get ‘station’ ‘monkey’ or ‘FPS-machine’. I also had less than 50 hands to show what I had.

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so, let's say you have a friend that you play with at game A. everytime you play with him he seems to play a quality game. you invite him to play in another game where he's unknown. the game is a bit higher with better players. he shows up at that game.. plays for a couple hours and only plays 3 or 4 hands. you see that two of them are QQ and JJ. after the session in the car on the way home he says this to you...
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from jmans report of HSP....
I guess nobody there had any idea of my reputation and playing style, because I have never been accused of being a nit before that day. Usually I get ‘station’ ‘monkey’ or ‘FPS-machine’. I also had less than 50 hands to show what I had.

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would you not say to your friend... they called you that because that's how you came across.
he then goes on to make this claim....
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I would’ve salivated over playing any of them HU. (Maybe wouldn’t have salivated over one or two but would surely be a favorite)

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would you not then say to your friend...
"how do you know such a thing. you didn't tangle with any of them even once. well once you bet the flop when you hit a set but how can you say such a thing."

or would you simply sit in the passenger seat and say....
"hell yeah.. you'd wipe them all out. one by one ... just like rambo."

pick one.

by the way the following ...
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I also had less than 50 hands to show what I had.


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jman is the one who says he'd have liked the chance to "show america" his skill. this leaves him open to criticism. he is the one that has invited it.

we also have another great comment from your expert. who wanted to impress all of his railbirds.

from jman's report....
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There was another hand that I wasn't a part of where one player shoved the river for about 2/5 pot after check-raising the turn. The other player tanks, saying his hand is as good as ace high. People started to chatter about what he could possibly have, which made me feel awesome since I was 90% sure he had 88-JJ with one club and was calling the turn in hopes for a club to hit or a free showdown and was folding to a river bet. After he folded, Negreanu said that he knew the one player would never bluff there, and I thought to myself how I'd always bluffshove that river. I’m looking forward to seeing that hand to check my read.

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does it not make it look like jman was grandstanding in his report in making it sound like he had this great read on eli. when we see the hand play out we all hear eli admit to having a pp under the Q. to steal a thought from Gabe. "wow, great read Mr. Galfond, great hearing as well".

this guy comes across as disingenuous, and arrogant. he thinks that 5 internit pros could take on 5 of the proven best in the game and win!!!
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I would love if someone would do a show where Me, durrr, Aba, and two more (Not saying I’m necessarily one of the best 5 online players and don’t wanna make a top 5 list) each play HU v Ivey, Doyle, Negreanu, etc. Like, we each pair up with a pro and play best of 3 HU 200bb freezouts. Each team puts up $2mm or whatever and whichever team wins most out of 5 splits the prize amongst themselves. Online pros v Live pros. Then maybe America would realize how it really is. Anyways, I’m ranting now.

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are all internits convinced that the internet pros are better than the recognized greats of the game?

i happen to think if any 5 on 5 challenge were to ever come about that the kids from the net would be sorely mistaken. do a search on phil galfond on youtube. you won't find much .. but.. there is nothing there impressive about his play.

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It pales into insignificance beside the errors that are made like 10 times an episode by other players.

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none of the other players on that show have posted a "report" here leaving his report and the episode that we all have seen open for discussion. furthermore... i found it extremely self absorbed his claim that he'd crush all the players at that table heads up and also that he would at the least be the favorite against all of them.

my point about his play is this.... if he was so confident that he was the best player at the table... then where was his confidence to mix it up with some of the aggrodonks he was up against? i'm sure you'd say he saw 50 hands of nonstop trash. i'm glad you have such strong belief. it's kind of like my trust and belief in the steelers of the 70's to beat every team they faced..then again when i was a 12 y.o. watching those steelers those steelers had won 4 super bowls. they had earned my faith.

jman is a big fish in a small pond. if he keeps stepping up to the majors he may become an accomplished player there too. let's wait to call him that til he puts up the results. because as of yet, he's totally unproven.

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Farha can do completely spastic things like make that K7o call and you just respond by spouting meaningless cliches about how he "has gamble"

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the cliche's get spouted because there really isn't a better explanation for why sammy would call there. he does it often enough that you just expect it from him.
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