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Old 10-16-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Getting Killed in Vegas 2/4 Games and Can\'t Find a Way Out

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So I have the book and I've read about half of it (I am a fast reader) and I'm making a cheat sheet as I go to get laminated.

I still don't think I played that hand as badly as you all make out. Yes, I lost. Yes, it cost me but it's not like I checked the damn thing to the river.

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It is obvious to respected posters in this thread that:
a. You dont understand basic gambling and poker-related concepts.

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b. That you played the example hand poorly.

You can disagree, but people who play higher and have more experience seem to think you are wrong. If you want advice great, but it seems to me like you either want pity for your bad luck or you are already expert (miles ahead of us) and we would only hold you back.

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Okay - flame me if you want. I can take it, because of course everyone here is a winner 100% of the time. I am being honest and saying I need help, and you flame me. Fine.

I am saying that some people are making out that I played that hand so badly that it defied belief - I know I played it badly, I have tried to expand on the situation but if you are really that damn good you will know that every hand is not cut in black and white, right?

I am asking for help and taking that advice and using it. I am not asking for flames nor posts stroking your own e-peen because you think I do not understand odds, outs, implied odds, ev and so on. I'm not a complete beginner and I've done well in various casino games and tournaments in the UK for a long time. The major difference in Europe is the stakes (pot limit as opposed to Limit) and most of all the players - Vegas is pretty wild when you live here.

I'm not used to limit and it's hit me square between the eyes. I'm humble enough to admit that and you flame me. GG I guess. I bow down to your superior knowledge. /sigh



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Calm down dude. I know where you're coming from to an extent. Some of the posters around here can have a condescending tone from time to time. It sucks, and it's not your fault; it's them. I think for a lot of people when you spend enough time doing something it's easy to get into a headspace where you can forget to be nice, especially to the noobs. They don't mean to make you feel bad.

However, this does not mean they are wrong. This thread does suggest that there are some fundamental concepts you don't understand yet. So read SSHE slowly, take notes, then read it again.

Good luck [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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