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Old 10-15-2007, 05:30 PM
tame_deuces tame_deuces is offline
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Default Re: The case for recycling

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A brief stint in the coastguard made me see firsthand what uncontrolled corporate behavior can do to the ocean in terms of destroying the foundation for one of the most important food sources this planet has, and one which we in all likelyhood must at one time depend heavily on (destroying seabottom ecology, use of bottom trawls, violation of season rules - and trust me these things are _truly_ dramatic and not some greenpeace save the whales nonsense), you must forgive me if I am more than vary of the market's ability to make proper adjustments. I'm sure it can help, but if that experience is an indicator we definitively need something more.

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Who currently owns the ocean?

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If I wasn't clear in my post what I witnessed was violations that had to be stopped by force, and forgive me if I don't for one second believe that if that force wasn't there then things would work out anyway - this clearly isn't so when you look at uncontrolled waters.

This isn't an issue which can be trivialized - when there is no control these things happen - and yes, it can destroy one of the worlds's greatest resources.

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Could you answer the question please?

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Sovereign coastal states have territorial waters expanding 12 nautical miles from their shoreline where they have complete control, they have an economic line expanding 200 nautical miles beyond that - the state has claim to all economic resources within that area and their regulation - all outside that are international waters which are attempted governed by a series of global agreements - ships sailing in these waters are under the jurisdiction of their flag - except for a few cases where any state can exact law.

Should also be noted that there are many disputes on the economic borders in many, many cases.


And what on earth is the point of your question?
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