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Old 09-28-2007, 12:17 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: My \"Political Philosophy\"

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What needs does the state provide you, that you choose to engage in on a voluntary basis?

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Subsidised services from police, health care, education, defence, etcetera. Or perhaps the one I began with - protection from the consequences of an open market in nuclear devices.

Can I point out again - I've asked maybe a half dozen questions, all of which you've ignored and we've now got back to "How could AC deal with the problem of nuclear devices in irrational people's hands?"

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Now you're contradicting yourself:

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I'm really not - you're just not listening to what I'm saying.

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The number of things I think we "need" a state for a very small (and diminishing). Nonetheless, given I think those needs exists, I'm not going to close my eyes and embrace ACism if there is no answer to those concerns. My reason for posting on these topics is not to say "States are better". It's to ask "How are these potential problems to be addressed in AC?".

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Healthcare and education are market phenomena that existed entirely on it's own prior to state nationalization and regulation.

Are you now raising healthcare and education as "potential problems to be addressed in AC" ?

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You asked me what needs the state provides me with and I listed some (healthcare, education, etcetera). I didnt claim that I need the state to provide those things, I claimed that I need those things and I choose to get them from the state.

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Those things are payed through taxation and are therefore not on a voluntary basis. The state also outlaws competition in many ways, so the degree to you choosing those things is severely limited.

And I thought we also agreed that the need for the state, in your case, only counted for things that you were not coerced in. I'm specifically asking for those things because you claimed there were things that you had a need for that was currently handled by the state.
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