The state of Notre Dame football.

[DesertCat]

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We know Ty can't meet expectations, he had one luckbox year and couldn't recruit, at least at this point Weis has had two decent to good seasons, 05 obviously being better than 06, and has put together three straight good recruiting classes. This latest stretch is troubling to say the least, I can't think of an elite coach who has looked this bad at any point in their careers, but I wouldn't say the book is completely closed on his potential unlike with Ty.

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Ty couldn't recruit? Weis's 2006 team was heavily built around Ty's recruits. Besides a first round pick in Quinn, they had 6 other seniors drafted by the NFL, and five others made NFL teams. And this doesn't count Samardzija who signed with the Cubs, but who would have been another first round draft pick (according to Mel Kiper).

A partial list of Ty's recruits on that team follows.

Brady Quinn
Jeff Samardzija
Victor Abiamiri
Ryan Harris
Derek Landri
Mike Richardson
Dan Santucci
Nedu Ndukwe
Rhema McKnight
Bob Morton
Darius Walker
Dwight Stephenson Jr
Travis Leitko
Travis Thomas

Maybe Weis coached them "up" better than Ty could. But if that's true, what is Weis doing this year "coaching em down"? Maybe Weis is the luckbox? He established a stellar reputation as an offensive coordinate in the NFL only by getting the opposing team's defensive calls every year from 2000 on (as confirmed by SI's story). Then before the scandal hits he goes to Notre Dame and parlays Ty's recruits into two good seasons, and despite being routed in two bowl games he's given a TEN YEAR EXTENSION just before the wheels fall off the bus.

That's a luckbox!