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Old 09-16-2007, 11:52 PM
TheTruthSpeaks TheTruthSpeaks is offline
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Default Re: Absolute Cliffsnotes (Mod edit: AP thread, part 2)

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Not sure about the other guy, but Graycat has always played LHE like a schizo and has traditionally been a huge donor.

STAGE #676850912: HOLDEM NORMAL $150/$300 - 2007-06-07 19:19:48 (ET)
Table: LOWLAND AVE (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - DONKEY1211 ($6098.50 in chips)
Seat 3 - COGSTER ($52815 in chips)
Seat 4 - GRAYCAT ($8020 in chips)
Seat 5 - SCHDNFRD ($32375.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - EZ2PLY ($2700 in chips)
Seat 9 - MARK SEIF ($8173.65 in chips)
Seat 1 - FRDM25 ($24328 in chips)
COGSTER - Posts small blind $100
GRAYCAT - Posts big blind $150
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to FRDM25 [4d 4h]
SCHDNFRD - Folds
EZ2PLY - Raises $300 to $300
MARK SEIF - Calls $300
FRDM25 - Calls $300
DONKEY1211 - Folds
COGSTER - Calls $200
GRAYCAT - Raises $300 to $450
EZ2PLY - Calls $150
MARK SEIF - Calls $150
FRDM25 - Calls $150
COGSTER - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [2d 2s 7c]
COGSTER - Checks
GRAYCAT - Bets $150
EZ2PLY - Calls $150
MARK SEIF - Raises $300 to $300
FRDM25 - Folds
COGSTER - Raises $450 to $450
GRAYCAT - Raises $450 to $600
EZ2PLY - Folds
MARK SEIF - Calls $300
COGSTER - Calls $150
*** TURN *** [2d 2s 7c] [Jh]
COGSTER - Bets $300
GRAYCAT - Raises $600 to $600
MARK SEIF - Raises $900 to $900
COGSTER - Raises $900 to $1200
GRAYCAT - Calls $600
MARK SEIF - Calls $300
*** RIVER *** [2d 2s 7c Jh] [Ks]
COGSTER - Bets $300
GRAYCAT - Calls $300
MARK SEIF - Folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
COGSTER - Shows [Ah 2h] (Three of a kind, twos)
GRAYCAT - Shows [10h 10d] (Two Pair, tens and twos)
COGSTER Collects $8395 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($8400) | Rake ($5)
Board [2d 2s 7c Jh Ks]
Seat 1: FRDM25 Folded on the FLOP
Seat 2: DONKEY1211 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: COGSTER (small blind) won Total ($8395) HI$8395) with Three of a kind, twos [Ah 2h - B:2s,P:2h,B:2d,P:Ah,B:Ks]
Seat 4: GRAYCAT (big blind) HI:lost with Two Pair, tens and twos [10h 10d - P:10h,P:10d,B:2s,B:2d,B:Ks]
Seat 5: SCHDNFRD Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: EZ2PLY Folded on the FLOP
Seat 9: MARK SEIF Folded on the RIVER


STAGE #676848309: HOLDEM NORMAL $150/$300 - 2007-06-07 19:16:25 (ET)
Table: LOWLAND AVE (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - GRAYCAT ($11020 in chips)
Seat 5 - SCHDNFRD ($32475.50 in chips)
Seat 9 - MARK SEIF ($9283.65 in chips)
Seat 1 - FRDM25 ($18838 in chips)
Seat 2 - DONKEY1211 ($6948.50 in chips)
Seat 3 - COGSTER ($52965 in chips)
SCHDNFRD - Posts small blind $100
MARK SEIF - Posts big blind $150
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to FRDM25 [10d Ad]
FRDM25 - Raises $300 to $300
DONKEY1211 - Folds
COGSTER - Folds
GRAYCAT - Raises $450 to $450
SCHDNFRD - Folds
MARK SEIF - Calls $300
FRDM25 - Calls $150
*** FLOP *** [8s 3d 6d]
MARK SEIF - Checks
FRDM25 - Checks
GRAYCAT - Bets $150
MARK SEIF - Raises $300 to $300
FRDM25 - Raises $450 to $450
GRAYCAT - Calls $300
MARK SEIF - Calls $150
*** TURN *** [8s 3d 6d] [Qd]
MARK SEIF - Checks
FRDM25 - Bets $300
GRAYCAT - Raises $600 to $600
MARK SEIF - Raises $900 to $900
FRDM25 - Raises $900 to $1200
GRAYCAT - Calls $600
MARK SEIF - Calls $300
*** RIVER *** [8s 3d 6d Qd] [Kc]
MARK SEIF - Checks
FRDM25 - Bets $300
GRAYCAT - Calls $300
MARK SEIF - Folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FRDM25 - Shows [10d Ad] (Flush, ace high)
GRAYCAT - Mucks
FRDM25 Collects $6995 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($7000) | Rake ($5)
Board [8s 3d 6d Qd Kc]
Seat 1: FRDM25 won Total ($6995) HI$6995) with Flush, ace high [10d Ad - P:Ad,B:Qd,P:10d,B:6d,B:3d]
Seat 2: DONKEY1211 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: COGSTER Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: GRAYCAT (dealer) HI: [Mucked] [Qs Js]
Seat 5: SCHDNFRD (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: MARK SEIF (big blind) Folded on the RIVER

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All high stakes LHE hands kind of look like this, but I'm definitely getting a GREYCAT/SEIF attempted whipsaw feeling in these two. Not claiming it's actual evidence, but given the rest of the thread, might be worth looking into.

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Wow,

This is a HUGE red flag. Seif threebets both of these hands on the turn and then folds both of them on the river for ONE bet. I know alot of you guys dont play min-bet, but this is almost unheard of, especially 3 minutes apart! WTF!. Looks like obvious pump-n-dump scenerio. very, very, shady.

I know this thread doesn't focus on collusion specifically, but wow there could but a whole lot of crazy [censored] going on there, and could be more widespread than you think.
 


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