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Old 09-04-2007, 01:52 PM
Kodfish Kodfish is offline
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Default QQ vs 2 maniac (bad players) 200BB\'s deep OOP

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $404.00
Hero (BB): $966.60
UTG: $423.10
MP: $400.00
CO: $904.20
BTN: $1,024.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $14.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $44.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $40.00, MP calls $30.00

Flop: ($134) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $65.00</font>, Hero calls $65.00, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $356.00</font>, BTN calls $291.00, [i]Hero ???

Ok, MP is unknown except at this table. He's been very loose, ie, he seems to over value hands that better players wouldn't (felting top pair and decent kicker, etc).

Button has also been wayyy over playing hands in this session. I'm playing 3 tables with him and he's doing it on all tables. Both villians appear to be gunning for each other as they are just getting into every pot and really trying to take each other on.

So, although I don't respect either player, bad players do show up with KK or AA from time to time [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And they are so reckless that one could easily still have an 8.

My last problem is that although I'm trapping preflop and on the flop (yes I know some will flame away at this), that with the button betting flop, Sb (me) calling, the MP has no problem check raising all in here? And then, the Button (who has 200BB's with me) flat calls there? How can I possibly be ahead of both of them?

Do I fold? call? raise?
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