**Official uNL Microbrew thread: September**

[meleader2]

how many hands do you use on a villain, typically, before you place a real tag on someone whether they're winning or losing.

your own read is at least 50k hands before you know how you're doing, so how can you peg a villain to be winning or losing, if you've been datamining (key phrase cuz u haven't been watching them) if you don't have a certain # of hands on them?

i like 500 hands to be a good indicator. in the past i've used PT to click on the summary tab to see how bad a certain level is based on the winning/losing % of players at the stake i was datamining but i really feel this is flawed.


after putting a filter of 500 hands on i have the winning players to be greater than the losing players (only by 10% or so).

clearly this can not be a good thing, whether it is partly due to the UIGEA or not is not of any concern to me. the bottom line is these long term players are winning and not losing.


what # of hands do you usually need to consider someone a losing player, and do u end up chasing them around??? i'd like to hear from regulars at the 25/50nl stake.

for me i've only found 1 longterm losing player at 50nl on FTP constantly playing. JIMMY1969. horrible player.