Purposely scratching in 8-ball?

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In WV, we played that no matter what balls or how many you sank, it was still open until you complete after the break. So if you sink three solids on the break, it's still open. If you miss a follow-up shot, your opponent could steal your solids. It's a terrible rule.

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this is actually standard at most bars, and is in fact the official rule. why is you think it's so terrible? the point of the rule is to reduce the advantage that comes with getting the break. i think most would agree that ideally it should be as close to nothing as possible. the alternative is that when you break and successfully pocket balls, not only is it your turn first, but you automatically get the color with fewer balls left. that seems like it would be a much worse outcome, no?

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This is not an APA rule, so I'm not sure which official rules you're referring to. The APA rule – which any APA league in the US uses – is that if you only pocket stripes or only solids on the break, you are stripes or solids respectively. If you sink one of each, it's still open. I'm not sure what the rule is if you sink two stripes and one solid, though I'm tempted to say it's still open.