![]() |
|
#11
|
|||
|
|||
|
[ QUOTE ]
Can't speak for others, but I'm not trying to be tricky. Just trying to get value for the hand. [/ QUOTE ]Whether you are trying to be tricky or not, limping a big hand is deceptive. Deceptive isn't bad in poker, obviously, but you have to consider if the situation warrants it. As I've said, I believe that the value you gain from the deception is not worth the value you pass up by not raising. [ QUOTE ] 1) I'm hoping for someone else to raise and then I can reraise and hopefully trap callers. [/ QUOTE ]In most games I need to have reason to believe someone will raise my limp before I make this play. In a STT, the levels where this kind of think would be useful (in the beginning, where stacks are deeper) I usually haven't played with the players enough to have this kind of read. [ QUOTE ] 2) If that doesn't work out, maybe I'll flop a set and win a much bigger pot than I would have had I raised. [/ QUOTE ]It is REALLY hard to get value from top set because there is less chance someone will have top pair or an overpair, which are the kinds of hands that wills stack off to a set. [ QUOTE ] All pairs play well multiway. [/ QUOTE ]This is simply not true. Small pairs play much better multiway than big ones do, and the reason is that when they make a hand (a set) they are well hidden and leave room for someone to make a second best hand (top pair, over pair) that will stack off to you. [ QUOTE ] 3) If that doesn't work out, maybe it will only be 3-4 handed...I'll play it kinda soft and keep pot small. Can get a few loose riverscalls or induce a few small bluffs. [/ QUOTE ]True- there's always value in these big pairs. But you will be able to play your overpair more strongly in a heads up pot and get better value from it. This is why you should seek to get heads up with your big pair with whatever line you take. [ QUOTE ] If I raise UTG, I'll usually either collect the blinds (which is nothing) or I might get one caller. [/ QUOTE ]Only in the first two levels of a STT are the blinds nothing, and even then winning those few chips is better than losing chips trying to trap your opponents. [ QUOTE ] If he's a good player, he basically knows what I have and will give action only if he's got me. Not good. [/ QUOTE ]I assume you are raising hands like AK and AQ UTG as well, so a good player won't "know what you have". If he'll call and then fold the flop unless he can beat an overpair, you should raise more hands UTG. However, I rarely see opponents this tight. |
|
|