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Old 07-24-2007, 12:33 AM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: AK is crappy multi-way all-in hand...

Yup. Incremental edge * volume = profit. Variance's the price.

And that's something every tournament player must get used to if he or she has even a rational chance of becoming a successful player.

bogey,

You're defining a Hero with a skill edge over his opposition that rarely, if ever exists in tournaments with 300+ runners. Once you start trying to find better spots to double up with a bigger edge...

The bigger the field, the more you hurt your EV in the long term. And your edge would probably have to increase exponentially to overcome field sizes.

And practically anybody that thinks or assumes they do have that edge doesn't. Such a player doesn't exist.

Of course there are scenarios where you can fold AK, and no, you don't need to put your opponents on KK+ either to make your case. (FWIW, you're making a situational argument. Perhaps if you defined a specific situation, you'll make your point a little clearer?)

On pure maths, you have 33.9% EV, and when you examine 'stove calcs, you look at the EV metric, not the win % metric to assess what your equity is in the hand.

While it's true these days opponents have gotten better and this phenomenon has filtered down to the micros somewhat, there are still concepts and applications of those concepts they are clueless about and even solid, profitable players don't extract enough value from.

And that is superaggression and near-eidetic knowledge of ICM calcs in pushbotting phases of turbos.
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