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Old 07-20-2007, 01:22 AM
igetbadbeat igetbadbeat is offline
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Default Re: Early UFC 74/75 Lines

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FWIW just being nitty, False Positive is a logic and statistics term. Its prevalently used on the information security side (my "real job" field). A real world example from there:

voice recognition security product. Alice provides a voiceprint, it is used by an application to authenticate Alice (identification) for entry to a door.

Alice steps up and properly authenticates: This is called a "True Positive" result -- Alice receives entry.

Alice steps up but the system fails to authenticate her: this is called a "False Negative" result. or a type II statical error. The system falsely gave you a negative response when you should have received a positive. Alice does not receive entry even though she should receive entry

Bob steps up and provides Alice's voiceprint command. The system allows him entry. This is a "False Positive" in that the system falsely provided the "positive result" to an inappropriate actor. This is also called a type I statistical error.

The fourth possible condition is a "True Negative" -- for example Bob steps up and provides Alice's voiceprint command and the system correctly denies him entry.

Longwinded way of saying that "False Positive" is the very correct terminology here from a stastical or logical sense -- as it is frequently applied in the field of medical testing as well. In the event that for whatever reason he was not actually on steroids (not that I'm saying this is the case) the test result would officially be a "False Positive" test for steroids. Likewise if he was actually on steroids but succesfully masked them in the test, that is a "False Negative".

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PS: my call is Penn fights the winner of Stevenson vs. Pellegrino from UFC 74 for the vacant title. When he wins that, he steps up to 170 and becomes the first person to consolidates two UFC weight classes.

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haha I took Human Factors 18 months ago...thanks for clarifying it for everyone else but I was well aware of this term. Basically I meant that a "false positive" on sherk means someone or soemthing messed up. There are only a certain level of confidence interval with these tests plus people need to realize creatine supplementation and heavy lifting increases ur test results. I firmly beleive someone as deliberate as sherk probasbly used the proper amount of deca durobolin to come up just short of positive but failed to realize how naturally elevated his levels are. In fact for hte olympics 2ng/mL is positive and I'm almost POSITIVE he would fail that without any drug use.
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