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Old 06-16-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Ockham\'s Razor

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A correct statement of Occam's razor is, "The simplest explanation that fits the data is the most likely to be correct.[/b]



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A number of respondents have said something like this. As I understand it, Occam's razor is not about which theory is more likely to be 'correct'. Occam's razor has nothing to do with how likely a theory is to be true, but instead is a principle that directs us how to choose among theories, on non-empirical grounds, that are equally likely to be true given the evidence.

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I couldn't disagree more. This doesn't even make sense. If the simpler explanation were not more likely to be true, what is the justification for the razor at all? The very point is that they are NOT equally likely to be true given the evidence. Hence the razor.

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I don't think thats quite right. There is really no reason to think any theory, X, is more likely to be correct than another theory, X+invisible blue goblins. Its just that there are an infinite number of more complicated theories, and we couldn't ever have ANY meaningful consensus or discussion about any theory if we just accepted any of the infinite as 'equally good.' They are still equally likely, I think, whatever that means. They just aren't as...easy to talk about? To think about, maybe.

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This is silly. They are certainly all not just as likely to be correct. That is the principle the razor embodies.

If I can't find my keys, and it were REALLY just as likely that invisible blue goblins stole them and altered my memory so that I don't remember where I left them as it is that I just forgot where I put them, and hence an infinite number of other theories, then it would LITERALLY be the case the the chances that I just forgot where I put them would be 0%, when obviously it is near 100%. This is patently ridiculous. The only way this is avoided is if the simple explanations is MORE likely than alternative explanations that invoke extraneous ad hoc hypotheticals.

I repeat, if the simpler explanation were not more likely to be correct, then parsimony would be a useless concept.

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That is a misapplication of the concept. To stick with your keys scenario, the two (or infinite) competing theories are:

You forgot where you put your keys
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You forgot where you put your keys and invisible blue goblins watched you do it.

Both of these are equally likely. There is absolutely no difference in explanatory power. Its just the second one involves a whole bunch of unnecessary information. Your scenario is different because there are real differences in outcome or explanatory power to the two theories.
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