Guild Wars

[phillydilly]

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If you plan to pvp competitively and don't buy the PvP editions, then this game has a whole lot of grinding. Almost as bad as WoW.

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Don't really understand this considering you can create a level 20 character from scratch. If you're referring to the fact that you start off with few of the total available skills, then I guess I see what you're saying, though it's not really a big deal.

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You can create a lvl 20 character immediately, but only use it for PVP. All PVE characters start at Lvl 1.
This way, if you want to jump into PVP right away, you have a much better chance.