For-profit universal healthcare: would it work in the US?

[tolbiny]

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Which you somehow think is cheaper than the "free" TV was 50 years ago.

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"free" TV still exits today- and it exits in color, more languages with more variety of programming, and covering a larger area. It is a far superior product than it was 50 years ago.

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30 free to listen local radio stations.


Unchanged from 50 years ago.


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Not unchanged, again higher quality, more coverage, more variety, more stations.

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130 channles on my satellite radio for 12 bucks,


This is cheaper than "free"?

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New technology, high startup costs and yet 12 bucks a month giver you better entertainment options than all the options facing an average person 100 years ago combined.

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Communication =/= entertainment.

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Just because all communication doesn't = entertainment, doesn't dispute the fact that I can get enormous amounts of entertainment from communication mediums.

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2000 / year base price (20k base, ammortized over 10 years)

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Someday when you're bored, calculate the cost of owning a car (forget SUV's and light trucks, they don't bear contemplation) for the average American. Factor the cost of the car itself, insurance, gasoline and oil, and maintenance........
Thus, his cost of travel is (including earning the money to keep and maintain his car of course) about 605 hours per year. During that time he travels 10,000 miles as noted above. Thus, his automotive rate of travel, on average, is about 16.5 miles per hour, a pace I can match on a bicycle without any great difficulty.

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So this whole section is bullcrap. since
1. You cannot average 16.5 miles per hour on a 1907 bicycle (the fact that you might be able to on a 2007 bike supports my side of the argument even further)
2. Cars provide far better traveling ability than bikes- you can drive in much worse weather, and in much better comfort than on a bicycle.
3. Cars provide many more additional benefits- being able to live further from work allows for better living conditions, being able to travel quickly allows people to get to places on short notice (seeing ill relatives, getting a doctor to ill relatives)

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How much did air travel cost 200 years ago? Once again, you aren't arguing for "cheap". You're arguing, at best, for "better".

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Air travel is comparable to other types of travel. The goal is to get from place X to place Y. To travel from Europe to the states by ship took months (which by the way couldn't be worked during at normal hours, and is a huge cost), cost a fair amount and entailed far worse conditions.

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What's your story

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27 and over the last 11 years logged between 4,500-5,000 hours mostly in elementary schools and state parks.

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By my count, exactly 1 of your arguments above, when construed generously, could be taken as an argument for decreased cost of entertainment. (The "I can buy one song at a time" thing.) So yeah, you can definitely dismiss my answers, but apparently you can't support your dismissal.


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I await your apology.