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Old 05-14-2007, 03:08 AM
sfgiants sfgiants is offline
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Default LO/8 JJTT in Micro-Limit Game

Playing in a game where it is typical to have 6 people to the flop and not much pf-raising, so I can get in pretty cheap. I understand this is very low limit, but as I outlined in one of my first posts, I hope to learn the value of bankroll management by working my way up. I italicized my thoughts - please let me know if I am mistaken on any or all streets.


PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Omaha/8 (10 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

A pretty marginal hand, but figured I could get in cheap and fold if the flop didn't hit me hard. Question: Should I factor in any set value with the Jacks or Tens? I avoid playing low cards for set value - could the same principle apply here because of the propensity of lower-limit plyers to play high-only hands and thus the increased likelihood of a high straight?



Flop: (15 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.
A very marginal flop, but the pot was large. A non-diamond King would give me a nut straight, but there's also the high probability of splitting the high end of the pot with another player with an identical Ace high straight if the turn and river both brought high cards. There were also two low cards on the flop, so I could be splitting that way as well.

Turn: (11 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Button calls, SB calls.

[i]After I made my straight I wanted to knock players out. I knew that no-one would fold to one bet, so I hoped a late position player would bet, allowing me to raise and force others to call two bets cold. [/b]

River: (22 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

[i] Is the pot big enough to justify a call here? (.10 in a 2.20 pot), but both flush and full-house are possible/likely.
Final Pot: 25 BB

Overall, I think I played this hand pretty poorly. I view this as a textbook example of why one should avoid marginal hands pf and marginal draws. Even if I hit my straight, there were so many other possibilities I would have to worry about - another high card would mean a split pot - a low card would also split the pot. A third suited card would spell trouble - etc, etc. The odds are deceptive.

My turn-check raise backfired - instead of knocking players out I just built the pot.

My concluding thoughts are that although the size of the pot was tempting, I just forced me into bad plays by not thinking through all possible situations. I should have folded pre-flop and flop. Agree, disagree? Any thoughts are welcome.
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