Official Full Tilt Poker Response to Bot Thread

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If I paid you to sit there and do what the software told you to do, could you do it? (Ignore, would you, for purposes of the question)

fwiw, over time I would expect misclicks to be minimized.

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Well they werent being paid to sit there and make clicks; at least that is what we are being told. They are playing with their own money on their own accounts. A little different IMHO.

I'm not talking misclicks. I'm talking about where they have the nut flush and the river pairs board. Opponent pushes all-in. Strategically their rules say to fold. But they have a gut feeling and really think the guy is full of it so they decide to call. Do really think they NEVER do this because they follow the rule set 100%? IMHO, it seems rather hard to believe.

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AP10, while they were indeed not being paid an hourly to click, it was not far off.

The scenario suggested was that all wins/losses/rakeback across all accounts was pooled and profits distributed equally to reduce the effect of variance on the individual incomes.

The moniker of "sweatshop" stereotypes a scenario with one slavedriver reaping the profits while the workers toil for a minimum wage - this is not the suggested case here, although given the quantity of OMG BOT! OMG SWEATSHOP! posts it is easy to have missed this detail.

Given this - going with a "gut feeling and really think the guy is full of it" read - great if successful, but if not - face the wrath of the other grinders following "the system" for costing them all $$ by deviating of his own accord.

Now obviously this is a weird situation to imagine... but if you were a losing player, recruited by/joined a so called "sweatshop" and were suddenly banking a steady earn from minimal winrate + decent RB, surely you can understand why a drone would think "OMG this LAG is so FOS, no way he has a boat!!! but "system" says fold, I fold, ho-hum, on to the next hand"

Thoughts?

dave.

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It all just seems too hard to believe. I'm a winning medium & high stakes player and I've been told by opponents that I am the most disciplined player they've ever played against. Even still, on occasion I mess up and make a bad call even though my mind/system/past experience tells me to fold.

Remember, this is only one hard to believe aspect of the entire story. A lot of the other things are rather hard to believe as well IMHO. Adding them all together leads me to only one conclusion.

Ok, you cant prove it completely. I think there is enough substance here that they should at minimum be banned from the site. Let them keep their money and tell them to move on and learn from this and modify the T&C to not allow this "sweat shop" type of setup.

Regardless if you think they are guilty or innocent; I think we can all agree that Full Tilt dropped the ball on this....big time!