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Old 05-10-2007, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: NL Bots oSn Full Tilt

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On a side note, if these players do, in fact, discuss late-street decisions together before making them, do you see why their stats would have a much higher likelihood of convergence?


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No I don't see why. Could you please explain how introducing another random element helps the stats come closer together? It seems players A, B, and C all choose to diverge from the system an equal amount of times. Then thru discussion, players A, B, and C all arrive at an alternate course of action equally, even more exactly than a bot programmed to bet the river .28357962% of the time would do.

Maybe if on some streets, they could randomly decide to sometimes flip a coin to decide what to do, the stats would be even closer together than opposed to a set script telling them what to do everytime.

Let's test that.
I will program a computer to always raise the river. You can discuss with your friends what course of action to take sometimes, and throw in a random factor or two. Let's see which approach arrives at a more consistent raise on the river.

Players A, B, and C have the most identical stat of river bets out of all the stats. So *obviously* this would be the place that is the least likely to be scripted, right?

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But...my entire argument up to that point has been why it doesn't make sense that the stats would all converge on the late street due to botting...if we agree on the fact that they're not botting at least some of the time. Do you understand that part?

Now, I tried to give an alternative explanation as to why these stats *could* possibly converge. It seems to me that if they made at least some of the decision together, their stats would be more likely to converge than if they each played completely separately from one another. This is because the 3 (or more) of them would arrive at one strategy that would be consistent across their accounts. Does that make sense? Sure, it's still not likely to converge, but it's a lot more likely to converge than the 3 of them playing separately. And, like I said before, they do play without running a bot at least some of the time.
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