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[ QUOTE ] You no longer have to account for "what created God", since without time, it becomes more reasonable to assume that God could've always existed. [/ QUOTE ] You can see in that sentence the difficulties logic starts to have when you make just a small beginning to thinking outside of the box. PairTheBoard [/ QUOTE ] This is carried over from DS's thread on Cost/Benefits of Religion: [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I submit this is why many people cling to religion even while suspecting they could be wrong. You can't tell me people like NotReady don't see or understand the sound logic that is presented on this board, day after day. Of course he sees it! But it's like being told your mother's not your mother. He's better off refusing to accept that, and he knows it. [/ QUOTE ] You only think you have "sound logic" because you don't understand the nature of what you are applying that logic to. [/ QUOTE ] So what IS the nature of what we are applying that logic to? I say it's reality. You say, it's what?.... [/ QUOTE ] You might try rereading my last couple of hundred posts, as many of them have been speaking to this point. You can see from your discussion of Time here that you don't even understand the nature of our physical reality as it relates to Time all that well. Your logic is breaking down already as you try to apply it in that context. Yet you presume you understand the nature of All Reality well enough that you can apply your logic with brute force to questions much more mysterious than Time. Like "God", whatever is really being pointed to by that word. I usually distinguish between physical reality and Spiritual Reality so as to emphasize that concepts discussed involving the Spiritual must be dealt with differently than those to which science can be applied. But even then I have to recognize the limitations of my descriptive tools for Spiritual Reality and its nature. This is why I started the Thread, "Is a Zen Koan Accurate". Did you read that thread? Zen Buddhists are quick to point out that their descriptions of the True Buddha Nature cannot really tell it to you. You must experience it to realize what they are talking about. Even in Christianity, the Vatican freely admits that the best we can do with our language is provide metaphors and analogies for that which we experience in Faith. I understand that none of this makes much sense to you. That's why I pointed out to you in this thread what starts to happen to your logic when you make just a small beginning to thinking outside of the box. PairTheBoard |
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