Ram Vaswani speaks about that 'Golf Game'.

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Maybe the poker world needs a new term (like we don't have enough).

THE ENGLISH BET
Applied to wagers which will be collected on if won, but not paid out if lost.

Once I asked a guy, when facing a big bet, if he had the flush. He said yeah, he'd show me. So I folded my set, and he turned over a bluff. He lied, which I consider unethical, personally, even in the middle of a poker hand. BUT: he got the pot, and even if I'd had the option of not paying off, I would have paid off, AND it never occured to me to get mad at him, only myself.

Ivey may be a scumbag (I feel this way about liars in poker games, though I don't think they're cheating), but RV had notice very early on, and kept playing, AND it's silly to think that RV is stiffing PI for any reason other than the amount of the loss.

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I like this, the "English Bet". Good one. Anytime someone refuses to pay off on a loss, it should be referred to as an "English Bet" from now on.