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Old 04-16-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Review: Winning in Tough Hold \'em Games by Stox/Zobags

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They also recommends open raising 22 in the small blind page 90, Consistent with my comment about inconsistent advice.

The page 69 folding 22 advice is really quoting their empirical evidence, the page 90 raising advice appears to be them guessing.

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I can see three reasons for these types of "mistakes".

1. We used different methods in different parts of the book and thus there should be some contradictions, being able to superimpose or "cross-mesh" methods should act as a bit of a fact-checker or error finder but there would be situations that contradict on the margin.

2. Too my knowledge nobody else has attempted to find the marginal spots at which +EV becomes 0EV becomes -EV, at least to the degree in which we have. This is a very difficult task and I would EXPECT ome of the 0EV (or very very maringal +EV/-EV) spots to be hotly debated. This might then mean that we found the inflection point, which is the whole point anyways.

For instance, If you can say with relative certainty that open raising JTs 3 off the button in higher stakes games is a winner and that J8s is a loser, then I think you have accomplished alot. determing about J9s is going to be both more difficult AND less additive to your profit because if you get it wrong on either side it is a smaller mistake than the other two. You can also attempt to see what other factors influence this decision and use those to determine the correct action at that moment in time for the marginal spots.

3. We did in fact make an error, but aside from the flush draw hand (hand 25 i believe), I think most of our "errors" or explainable/marginal. I am making an excuse here, but I tabulated the data and worked on the charts and there were a lot of marginal decisions. By the end my eyes were a bit crosseyed and I was pretty sick of filtering 300-600k hand PT databases.
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