Two points against Intellectual property laws

[2OuterJitsu]

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So it's OK for you to engage in aggressive acts? "Hey, you might get hit by a falling rock, so I feel justified in mugging you!"

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As apposed to “hey what are you doing on my land I WAS HERE FIRST!

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Huh? Who's granting patents in ACland?

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The same guys providing security? Someone who isn’t fat from bread and numb from circuses, and actually wants to <u>produce</u> something of a value determined by the market?

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Og has done nothing to infringe upon you. You have no right to restrain his activities that do not aggress against you. You have no right to exclusive trading in any given commodity, because to do so requires restraint on both buyers and sellers, neither of which have consented to such restraints.

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So I’m entitled to your apples because I haven’t consented to be restricted? The almighty arbitrary determiner has some seriously wide ranging powers at least they’re appropriately arbitrary.

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Wait, did I miss something? Is there some government agency passing out unclaimed land to anyone who wants some?

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No there is some private agency giving patent/land owners some recourse for those who infringe on their rights.

Sorry but I don’t speak picture but I’ll try. Pythagoras invented what? Newton invented the telescope, he’s entitled to compensation from anyone who profits from his device without his permission for some arbitrary period of time (admittedly arbitrary, but no more or less arbitrary than the concept of property). Everyone is entitled to reproduce Salk’s vaccine because…? Einstein invented what? Maybe your confusing discovery with invention? How does one compensate Newton for discovering the third law of motion?

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WTF? What patents are being bought in ACland? How are these patents used to prevent other people from doing stuff?

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The same way security firms apprehend other criminals?

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I have no idea what you're talking about. Selling glory? Market-sanctioned violence? Inventors wishing to compete will have to come up with their own ideas - that's part of competeing. Why is someone else required to do their homework for them?

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That in fact <u>is</u> my entire argument. Their OWN ideas my precious.

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What was he robbed of? He got $10 million??

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Thank you oh mighty arbitrary determiner of market value.

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It helps some people, at the expense of restraining others.

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Oh I get it now. The consumer is the most important half of the market equation. As long as he gets his bread and circuses, who cares by what manner those breads and circuses are provided. I mean after all, give any plebe a babillion dollars and sooner or later presto chango he instantly transmographies into Michael Dell, or Henry Ford. And of course sooner isn’t better than latter because there is no way to predict how soon is soon. Additionally: the rights of the producers of bread and circuses, meh screw them greedy CAPITALISTS bitches.

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Well, first of all, copyright doesn't place restraints on those who may come up with an idea independently. Patents do.

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Which is why “with my last breath, I spit at thee” – Kahn Noonian Singh. Is correct.

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Apples are clearly scarce. If you take an apple from me, I no longer have it.

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By what manner of sorcery did you <u>have</u> this apple?

Intermittent wiper: &lt;10 cents
your apple: priceless

Oh almighty arbitrary determiner of value please accept these burnt offerings I beseech thee…

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And labor is also scarce. I only get one shot at laboring for a particular hour. If someone else appropriates that labor, I miss out on it.

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Your labor is scarce because it’s the labor of the almighty arbitrary determiner. Labor is not. I wrote a great deal more than what you decided to cherry pick “rebut”. Again my argument is not that patents create innovation, but that patents provide an incentive to innovate, by those without capital.

Why would any investor compensate an inventor? Because they signed a contract? Contracts can protect the ownership of things that can’t be owned? So slavery exists in ACland if there is a market for slaves?