StudHi Great 4th street...now what??

[Poker CPA]

What do you put seats 2 and 8 on, in order to determine if 7th is a value bet?

I think seat 2 is looking for a heart based on 4th street play, and will fold Qs, specially if seat 8 calls. Seat 8 has a low st8 draw, (2s, 3s and 7s are all live). If he has a big pair wired and doesn't improved on 7th, he's folding to the Qs and the agressive nature of Hero. My headreading puts both these guys on draws, and to bet into them is not a value play. Yeah you could have the best hand here, no debate there. Its whether they will be calling on busted draws. Again check is fine because the bet has no positive expectation, both will fold if they don't make their draws, and if they do, they're raising. A value bet should be based on, not on having the best hand, but on your chances of winning the last bet when you are called (or rasied). A value bet HU, you need to be at least a 60% favorite, to compensate for the potential raise back. 3 way action, when both appear to be on draws, you need to be at least 80%.

This is not a huge mistake, given the action and the exposed cards (and yes I know about the hearts).

SLM are you impling Bear is a poor player because he made 1 check during this hand? The thinking of "marginal hand" on third is much worse, considering the exposed cards.