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Old 03-01-2007, 11:36 PM
Sean Fraley Sean Fraley is offline
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Default Re: 50nl i NEVER fold kings...

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I'm pretty sure his PF 3bet range is wider than just AA......

Why not shove pre?

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i don't think it is.

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The odds of being dealt a given pocket pair are about 220:1, which means that AA makes up less than one half of one percent of a persons range. Even if villain only 3-bets about one third of the hands they raise you still have basically enough range for KK and QQ to be a possibility. You tie with KK and beat QQ, so dead money in the pot is enough to warrant shoving this preflop. On the flop, there is no reason not to shove here, since we have absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe that villain has anything but an overpair.


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edit: and ya know, even if it is, i'm +EV against this guy in the long run i can find a better spot than this WA/WB situation

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This is not the time to be thinking WA/WB. Villain has a very narrowly defined range in which you beat or tie against more than %50 of his possible hands. If you can't bring yourself to raise this flop with the intention of getting it all-in by the river so long as an ace doesn't hit the board, you are playing the wrong game.
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