Get Your Calculators Out!

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

I think preflop's a fold, but it's close. I'd definitely fold from the SB with a 1/2 blind structure and probably call from the BB.

The thing to look out for here is that with this many people seeing a flop hold 'em starts to play a bit like lolmaha, where you usually have to make something fairly close to the nuts to drag the pot. You have a hand that can't make the nut straight and is far, far away from being able to make the nut flush. Your two pair hands are *very* vulnerable. Trips are better, but will still lose occasionally.