Please shutup about the US bringing democracy to other countries

[Josem]

it took a couple of years to change Japanese "culture." it took a couple of years to change German "culture." it took a couple of months to fix South African "culture."


sure, the Iraq situation is not ideal, but it's on the right track.



simply because it is tough doesn't mean the struggle should be conceded. once upon a time, when the US democrats were the party of freedom, one of their leaders made the point (paraphrasing) that human rights accumulate from the hand of god, not from the generosity of the state.