Maximizing Value with the Mortal Nuts

[TheRempel]

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BUt, a set would be more than happy to push all in against you and a foe who he assumes both have a flush, right? So push it all in on flop.

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Yeah most players would call a c/r all in with a set here all of the time.

The standard line I see most people taking here is c/c flop, c/c turn, VB river and call push but I think this is generally awful *especially* if you are up against top set and the nut flush, since one or the other won't be calling you by the river most times. Getting it in on the flop gets you all the money with two players drawing dead. Against players that can think a few levels higher you might have to vary your play a little more since they will know you either have a SF or a bluff.

A very similar situation is when you flop quads and your opponent has to have the under or overfull. I rarely see anyone lay down TTxx against a reraise on a JJT flop, but they will pitch it when the Q comes on the turn. Anytime I meet resistance when I flop that strong I am always gonna get as much money in on the flop as possible.

IMHO it is almost always better to fast play even the strongest of made hands in PLO because slowplaying will win usually win you big pots against the second nuts and very little against anything else, while fast play will win you a lot when your opponent thinks he is ahead or drawing live.