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Old 01-23-2007, 07:47 AM
bernie bernie is offline
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Default Re: Peyton Manning, Greatest QB of all time?

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Peyton is a great QB and is lucky that he was drafted by a organization that did such a solid job in terms of aquiring and keeping talent and building around him.

If Peyton is drafted by the Cardinals...no one mentions his name 20 years from now.

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The Colts pretty much were the Cardinals before Manning got there. Outside of one fluke year with Jim Harbaugh they had never won a playoff game since coming to Indy.

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Peyton isn't the reason they became great. Just like Brady isn't the reason NE won 3 superbowls.
He was a huge factor but

A someone had to choose him as their QB
B someone had to aquire WR's,Te's,Olinemen, a offensive cordinator who would realize what he had in Peyton and build the perfect system around him and his talent.

Anyone that thinks Peyton becomes an all time great QB regardless of what team he is drafted by/plays for his smoking some seriously strong weed.

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You can say that all you want but bad organizations seem to get turned around real quick when they get lucky enough to find a franchise QB. I guess Jim Mora must have been a developmental genius.

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Every QB drafted in the top 3 is a franchise qb.

If Jake Plummer is drafted by Bill Walsh instead of Buddy Ryan or whoever it was that drafted him....who knows how much better of a career he has or doesn't has.
Or better yet..if Mike Shanahan gets Mike Vick instead of Griese/bubby/Plummer etc

It makes ALL the difference. A Qb has to have the tools and talents,smart,drive etc...but you can't fit a square peg into a round hole no matter how hard u try.

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One name comes instantly to mind.

Rick Mirer.

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