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Old 01-20-2007, 05:36 PM
Softrock Softrock is offline
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Default Ever Felt Harrassed?

Playing 40-80 Holdem last night. The player in question was one of those who would play pretty well about 80% of the time but then would occassionally make some terrible plays seemingly out of impulsivity. That is, he seemed to work at playing well but occassionally just couldn't keep from doing something stupid.

The hand in question I had KK and had raised UTG. I was the aggressor the whole hand. On the turn the board was 9499, I bet and was called. A Jack came on the river. I bet, he put out 16 chips and was dropping them in the pot in various sized piles, I put in another bet to call and said "I can't beat four nines". At this point he says "Oh I wasn't raising, I was just calling". The dealer said "you put in the raise" and he insisted he did not. She (the dealer) looked at me and said "I can call the Floorman" and I said "please do". Meanwhile the other player kept saying "I didn't say raise" asking various people at the table "Did you hear me say raise?". Universally, the opinion was that he clearly had raised but his argument seemed to be that since he hadn't said raise then he didn't. One player who he seemed to know responded to him "If you're asking my opinion, I raised" to which he responded "I asked you if you heard me say raise".

The floorman came over and was quite clear that it was a raise and told the player he had to put the $80 - he protested a bit but eventually did. I showed my KK and he mucked his hand.

However, he didn't stop. He kept saying to me "You didn't hear me say raise". Then he asked for $40 saying I should split the bet with him to be fair. He kept it up. I told him "The florman made his decision, let it be".

Now, there's no doubt in my mind that this man was trying to play an angle. He was making a move (a stupid one) by raising me on the river and when he saw I was calling and heard my comment he tried to retrieve his bet. If I had any inkling that it had been an honest mistake or that maybe he really didn't intend to raise I might have considered giving him the $40 as a gesture of good will. I however was not going to give in to someone who was attempting to cheat and then intimidate.

Here's my question, when he didn't stop asking me for $40, I was ready to call the floorman over and tell him this player was harrassing me. Before I did this however, the guy took a beat from someone else and stopped bugging me. About twenty minutes later he left and went to the 20-40.

I generally get along with just about everybody and those with whom I don't get along I generally just ingnore. Has anyone had to ask the floor to stop a player from harrassing them? I know this floorman and believe he would have backed me up but I'm not sure what he would have done.
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