The fish eye view

[Benjamin]

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HUD bots are leeches on society who produce no wealth. Nor do they provide enjoyment or entertainment in return for the money they take. ...

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I'm sorry, how is this statement any more or less accurate if you say "Poker players" instead of "HUD bots"?

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In live play there are many winning poker players who are likeable personalities at the table. They bring entertainment value to the table while they take money away. They help the game progress quickly and smoothly.

The same is true at a lesser extent for some winning online players. They may keep light-hearted chat going, they don't play nit-tight, they act promptly, and they may try to defuse tense table situations when the loose players are being attacked in chat.

A HUD-bot, on the other hand, practically never chats, unless it's to berate someone who sucked out on his aces. A HUD-bot frequently plays nit-tight, and at the same time frequently holds up the game even when faced with an easy decision because there are so many tables to keep up with. But the HUD-bot still makes generally good decisions at all those tables with the help of the stat displays.

So, yes, I think a distinction can easily be made in which some winning players do contribute entertainment value to the table. HUD-bots do not, and their non-chatting, slow playing, nit tight table presence is often of negative entertainment value.

The fact that a HUD-bot spreads these unpleasant characteristics across many many tables only makes their collective table presence worse.

Yes, there is a difference.

B.