Did I play this one correctly?

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Why c/c with the nuts? I understand checking if you're going for a c/r after putting him on a low draw, but I don't understand check calling to get a free card when you have the "turn nuts."

[/ QUOTE ]4ever - I understand you're disagreeing with me, but you've asked a very good question.

And this is the thing about limit-Omaha-8. Unless you have the stone cold unbeatable nuts, it's not over until the river. You cannot protect a flopped set when someone raises your flop bet.

If you could make a pot sized raise, maybe you could protect your flopped set against some draws, but it's going to usually come down to whether a straight or flush in the hands of your opponent will win or your full house or quads will win.

In this particular case there are two wheel cards on the flop. With four high cards in Hero's hand, low is very likely. Somebody with the nut low, or even just two non-paired cards in the two to six or ace to five range is close to free-rolling Hero.

What kind of a hand is worth a raise here? (Hero already has top set, so Villain can't have that). Think about it. It's very scary. I actually chose a couple of what I thought were logical hands for the raise and simulated. Hero was a big underdog. Having no low draw after this flop is a big disadvantage.

At any rate, back to your excellent question: You can flop the nuts in Omaha-8 and still be the underdog. And although Hero can't know it for certain while he's playing the hand, because he cannot see Villain's cards, I think Hero probably is the underdog to someone who raises him after this particular flop.

That's part of the irony of Omaha-8. You can flop the nuts and still be the under-dog. Happens all the time!

Buzz