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| Every 100 hands. |
   
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17 | 12.50% |
| Every 500 hands. |
  
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37 | 27.21% |
| Every 1000 hands. |
  
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25 | 18.38% |
| Every 5000 hands. |
  
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19 | 13.97% |
| Every 10000 hands. |
  
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11 | 8.09% |
| Every 50000 hands. |
  
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3 | 2.21% |
| Almost never. |
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24 | 17.65% |
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12-20-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: Pf confusion
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[ QUOTE ] Did you read my post? If you did, you'd see that I didn't assume anything. [/ QUOTE ] Are we playing semantics now? Lame. But oh well: [ QUOTE ] Let's assume in this case that he calls a push with QQ+ [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] What I meant was that I'm not assuming anything about this particular villain's range. That's not semantics. [ QUOTE ] You gave two separate ranges, or as I call them, "assumptions." You can't make EV calcs without them. I don't think either range is realistic in either case. You can make an argument for folding KK if a villain will only push with AA, but we don't do that because it's not realistic to assume that. [/ QUOTE ] Are you telling me there are no villains who 3-bet only AA, KK, QQ, AK? If so, LOL. There are PLENTY of SSNL player who's 3-bet range is exactly this. For my example to be invalid you would have to show that the range I gave does not describe ANY player. I don't really understand your criticisms of the second range I gave. There are plenty of players IME who play very similar to this. In any case, the point of my post was to demonstrate that folding, calling, and pushing can all be correct under the right circumstances, not to bicker endlessly about what the villain's range is. It's impossible to know with the information provided. Free free to do your own EV calcs with ranges you deem to be "acceptable". 
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