New Fight Question

[Smasharoo]

You're so cynical, but you aren't helping your cause. Try to discuss this without making snide remarks and trying to avoid discussing points. I've already conceded that the world class boxer would be the better athlete, but you haven't responded to my comment that it wouldn't matter once he gets taken down or presented with a situation he doesn't know how to defend against.


Ok, let me respond. A world class boxer freed from any rules regarding kidney punching or rabbit punching or whatever is very likely to injure someone other than another world class boxer trying to get him on the ground sufficently that killig them would just be a tedious chore.

It's why they have rules in boxing. It's also why they have rules in UFC. See, for some bizarre reason you seem to be assuming that this would be fought under UFC rules. I'm not sure why, really, but anyway, knowing more about grappling doesn't do you much good when you're getting punched in vulnerable areas by a guy with better handspeed than you have, and certainly who is far more capable of hitting you and mopving out of the way faster than you can kick him in the leg.

The first UFCs had good boxers and martial artists up against a guy with a superior skill set with inferior athletic ability. This is pretty much exactly what we're arguing here and I have past data to back me up.


No, they had well below average boxers against world class martial artists, which is nothing like we're talking about here. That's the point. Taking failed boxers who competed in UFC because they litterally couldn't get a fight with a $5000 purse is hardly usefull data.


You have nothing supporting you except your own wild notion that boxers are so much faster and stronger than anyone else that to try to fight them would be suicide.

It's not a wild notion, it's simple economics. If the UFC guys had better reflexes and were stronger and faster, and as you say capable of learning complex physical skills...they'd be boxers, or something else. Because the largest UFC purse in history is way, way, less than boxers make for average non title fights.