Bots in PartyPoker's 6-max Limit games?

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The term "my friends" has a similar meaning where I live. That's not why it's highlighted. I don't think he actually has friends at neteller.

Assuming he's telling the truth, I can't see any way to create 14 accounts, given neteller's supposedly strict ID verification system and phone confirmation of identity. I'm wondering if there's a security hole/lack of account checks here that neteller needs to work on.

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there are security holes in everything.

A determined person can open 100 Party/NT a/c if they so choose although it's probably quite difficult to actually do.

I suspect fixing this security hole on NT part would involve making obtaining NT a/c's for an ordinary honest person quite a long and drawn out process.

as far as forwarding all the relevant posts to Party from the cheaters website you might as well just send them links to the entire board.

I would hope that for a bot platform thats so widely known and used that Poker sites already have people on staff to monitor sites like this - you'd also hope that they have some way of getting into the private areas of said site (maybe an undercover staff member or something like that) to keep more up to date with what these cheaters are doing.

It does seem from reading lots of the cheaters website over the past few days that there are a hardcore of users (maybe as many as 40 or so) that run teams of winning bots that make mediocre amounts (in the region of 2PTBB/100) a good few hundred other users who have losing bots, and perhaps several people that have now developed very good bots.

Also from thepokerforum thread that I linked to earlier...

When a client changes their interface (table) ot normally breaks some part of a bots scrape, which then has to be re-programmed.


A few months back UB somehow changed the graphic presented when there was no small blind posted for a hand.

Every time this occurred the ******** bot would sleep as it couldnt understand what it saw.

While we were attempting to debug this we would be observing the bot playaing.

We could be at a 0.50/1.00 table and see the situation occur , next hand 5-6 players would be sitting out , this occured very time the small blind was not posted and across all tables and limits.

So yes i can back up what I say about the % of bots playing UB.


(this guy claims in that previous post that up to 50% of the players at low stakes Limit games on UB are bots of one sort or another - and the most popular/widely used bot is presently the bot that Ray is pushing on his site.)

anyone out there witnessed this happening?

anyone with an UB db that has hands where this happened??

if you do check the SN's of those "timing out" players with SN's of current players and you might well discover a good number of these cheating bot scum - I don't play UB or Limit or I'd have looked myself already.

it also suggests that to defeat most of the bots out there you just need to defeat the screenscrape technology on a regular basis (as this is what most likely happened with the recent Party update and change in table layout) this might well be harder to do in practice tho.