Calling Equity? late 20/180

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I fold. I'd rather open-push with garbage than call an open-pusher, even in LP, and even with this hand.

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If everyone thinks this way, FE should be re-evaluated. If first-in-Vig is being overused/abused, then it can be countered. If you knew what cards your opponents had (pushing with garbage), would you still fold K9?

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Play some SNGs. Go the the STT forum. It is standard practice to wait for a spot to push with a slightly worse hand than call with a slightly better hand.

Now that I think about it, this would almost be a better question for that forum.

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I do play sngs ~ 600 of them with a 17% ROI at 30$ avg stakes. Nothing spectacular by any means, but I'm not a complete donk. The 20/180s are technically sngs i suppose, so if this is a better Q there than I can post there. But this seems like a tourney, whatever.. my mistake.

BTW, I am not trying to be combative here, at all. So please don't mistake me for that. I want to take my tourney game to the next level, this is why I am looking for opinions other than my own and my friends'.
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It is standard practice to wait for a spot to push with a slightly worse hand than call with a slightly better hand.

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I am fully aware of this and have been for some time. This is my point (or lack of one). If more and more people are aware of this 'standard practice', would it not make sense to use this to your advantage and play differently? The fact that it has now become standard practice is convincing me to gamble more in certain spots.

My main experience has come from STTs, and I rarely if ever gamble on the bubble without good cause, good conditions, and good reads. At a tourney (if you consider a 180 entrant one a touney), I'm looking for some new ideas as sngs nearly play themselves.

Perhaps it is a function of the blind structures of the 180s~ it seems like in the 20/180s once it gets down to under 18 people there is a bottleneck ~ almost everyone's stack is in jeopardy in the 5-15BB range when almost everyone is playing preflop-poker-only, from the T1200 level to the T3000 level until a few bigger stacks emerge at the final table.