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Hi everyone, I want to say something here. First, let’s stop calling super aggressive players "lunatics" and "lucky idiots". I too like to play super aggressive and constantly attack early position players and weakness. I don't care what I am holding, I play players and their fears and not my cards. It is actually a very hard game to play, and you have to be able to smell danger and let go, but other than that, if you can get good at this game, you will find yourself sitting at 5-7 times your starting stack (eg. if you playing $100NL, you'd be sitting at $500-$700 at the end of your session). The beauty about being aggressive is when I make an all-in bet with a lock hand on the river - I get action from all those that are out there to get me and sitting there and thinking "dam this dude, he is breaking the law of playing too many hands - I am gonna take his stack", but guess what?? He starts to challenge me every time I raise, and I fold, and call, and reraise, but then magic happens and "kachunk" - he got stacked. That's what I wanted him to do - to start challenging me. I can’t believe people, they will sit there and hold two pair or a TPTK and call an all-in bet on the river thinking that they are invincible. Sure, I loose small pots here and there, but all this time I am taking notes of those bad calls they are making, and then when it matters – I make my bets larger and return all my investments. One thing I don’t like about tight players is that you can read them like a book. Here is an example... I hold 72 off, everyone folds to me on the button, I raise 3 times BB, get re-raised by the BB 2.5 times, I call and the flop comes 2 3 7. The BB comes out firing with a slight overbet. What does this tell me??? From the preflop action and now, I know what he is holding – TT, JJ, QQ, KK, or AA, however, his most likely holding is QQ-AA. I know that so far I have him beat, BUT, there are two more cards to come and my two pair can get counterfeited, so, I just call instead of reraising and letting the possible unfortunate turn or river to screw me. The Turn comes 8, and the BB comes firing with a slight overbet again. I call and the river is a 10. The BB checks and I go all-in. I get called and paid off. And then I get to hear – “you are a lucky idiot” how do you play that crap, you are a looser, and ETC. Has anyone learned a lesson here??? [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah, because of the position and high implied odds. If you are not willing to risk some money to get paid off, then you are just playing a cards contest. Waaay tooo many players are not able to let go of AA or KK. The board can have a pair, a straight possibility, a flush, and you can bet to represent either hand but will still get called, therefore, when you make a hand that is a better than your opponents pocket pair, you have to bet BIG. To take their money, because they think that AA is unbeatable. Let me aks you a question... If you are playing a game $200NL, where everyone is sitting there with big stacks and you are on the button with AA, and 4 players went ALL-IN before you and 2 players are left to act - are you going to call??? [/ QUOTE ] ok, these posts either are decent jokes, or 2 of the worst posts of all time. im going to respond as though they are serious. first of all, its fairly clear the OP is talking about limit holdem and not no-limit. in limit holdem if you are constantly raising limpers with 72o, and putting in tons of bets on the turn with bottom pair, you are going to lose. [ QUOTE ] One thing I don’t like about tight players is that you can read them like a book. [/ QUOTE ] many times in poker you must abandon deception in order to play a more optimal strategy. are you saying that it is always correct to just call with pairs, reraise with junk etc just to disguise your preflop hand? why play tricky in a 100 nl game when its likely no one can read hands for crap anyways? and the AA question- i dont have any idea wtf you are talking about. this is a cash game, there would be no reason not to call |
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