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Old 08-07-2006, 01:07 PM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: Fossilman\'s Account Hacked?

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I think you are framing the issue in the wrong way. Are the WPT release forms fair in what rights they take from players, while at the same time, they limit players options with the stipulations in their agreements with the casinos that host their tournaments, preventing those casinos from hosting any other televised tournaments?

Obviously, the WPT will only "need" to change if they are forced to, hence the lawsuit. I agree with Greg in that I feel many other poker players agree with their stance. I know I do.

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The reality is that the WPT took all the risk in establishing the tour. Therefore they set up the rules. now that it has been a hit it is time to do some collective bargaining...does any of this sound familiar? Its what is done in every other sport. Why these 7 dont realize this is beyond me. All i ask is that they do it the right way...Why bring the courts into this when it isnt necessary. Honestly it just looks lazy on the party of the players

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The WPT is asked to change their release forms (see the above link); they say "no" (as Fossilman has stated in this thread.) Various players seek to see other options to the WPT created, but are limited by the WPT's agreements with casinos. Therefore they sue on antitrust grounds. A few message board posters call them greedy, saying they are just in it for their own financial interests. Fossilman says if they'd alter their release forms, the lawsuit could quickly be settled. So I say, "call their bluff" - prove they are greedy money grubbers by altering the release forms to be like ESPN's. If they refuse to drop the lawsuit then, then maybe those calling them greedy and out for themselves would have a leg to stand on.

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no company in their right mind is going to change just b/c 7 people ask them to. Heck if a tournament has just 500 people, these 7 represent roughly 1% of the field. Do you really think they are worried about changing their entire structure b/c 1% disagrees? Please think about these things

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They asked them to change the release forms, and they said "NO". What's so hard to understand about that? This isn't the Middle East peace process; it's not that complicated. Again, why does the WPT need to have the right to misuse players names, if they are never going to misuse them???

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see the above argument and explain why the WPT should care what 1% of the field things? Now if the 7 had done it the right way, gathered up the support of all the pros and come with say 100 of the pros or more...well then just maybe you see the WPT do something...but when 1% comes...its not hard to see why they were laughed at and told no
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