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Old 07-29-2006, 05:11 AM
ShakeZula06 ShakeZula06 is offline
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Default Re: Lexicon appeal

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You can't be serious. Substantiation is not important??


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that's not what I'm saying at all.

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If we discuss a certain issue, whatever that might be, and I call you an anti-semite without substantiating that term, is that a personal insult to you or not? If I call you a liar, again without substantiation, is that an attack on your person rather than on your ideas, or not?

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yes and yes, what's your point? I'm just saying it's not an ad hominem. he wasn't trying to DISPROVE your arguement because of your reputation, he was simply bringing it up.

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When I attack your presumed motives rather then the positions you are supporting, is that constructive dialogue or a personal smear?


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personal smear =/= ad hominem fallacy.

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How can we seriously dispute that this kind if idle name-calling is attacking the person rather than the ideas the person supports?

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WE are not. YOU are.

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(Has no one bothered to look up the definition of ad hominem?

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Using your link-

"Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason: Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives."

How has Dynasty questioned your motives?

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Nobody cares for exactitude here? It's saddening and puzzling.)

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Yes it is saddening and puzzling that you can stare at a defintion of a word then believe this is an example. Dynasty is a Mod. He was warning you that you are on thin ice. He was not saying your arguement is false because there is something objectionable about you. He did not question your motives. Is this that hard?
 


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