Has the US gone communist yet? It's hard to tell.

[boracay]

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Yup, have a feeling USA is turning into China, when everyone was expecting the opposite. communism is about control.
- denying your adulthood regarding gambling <font color="red"> no "turning into here", prohibition and other "victimless crimes"</font>
- recording your phone calls, emails, <font color="red">never happened, isnt happening </font>
- spying over press and jounalists, <font color="red"> never happened, isnt happening </font>
- even revealing those who gave their life to the country but still dare to ask (chaney-libby), <font color="red"> her lying husband and herself revealed her role at the CIA long before Novak did, at parties no less </font>
- constantly calling attention about being in a war and that enemy is everywhere, hiding and just waiting for his opportunity to attack... <font color="red"> huh? </font>
- putting people in prison without accusation, refusing them any contacts, lawyers, denying any visit of human rights activists, red cross,... <font color="red"> the red cross hasnt been denied access to anyone, and has onsite observers at all prisons, not finding any violations of human rights. we'll just debunk the big one in a list of lies </font>

where is all this leading? <font color="red">good question...where does it lead when so many people in a democracy dont think for themselves enough to distinguish between progoganda and truth </font>

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] i see nothing, i hear nothing... good for you. model citizen one might say.

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boracay,

Wow awesome response, you totally owned him dude!

Copernicus,

If you search the forums far enough back, you'll see that I issued challenge for anyone to tell me how the how the Partriot Act limited their freedoms or curtailed our civil rights. As you can imagine, I have yet to have someone make the case.

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Ive done the same...to the same deafening silence.

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you might google around all those <font color="red">never happened, isnt happening </font>.

and google about patriot act too. under that legislation, your goverment can:
1. search your home and not even tell you
2. collect info about what books you read, what you study, your purchases and your medical history (=spying; no more confidential coversations with your doctor, lawyer or priest)
3. seize a wide variety of business and financial records
4. read your emails and look what sites you are visiting online.

but i guess you're right, partriot act did not limit your freedoms or curtailed your civil rights.