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Old 07-17-2006, 01:07 PM
Howard Beale Howard Beale is offline
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Default Re: The \"relative\" value of human life

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Population Israel: 6,352,117
Population United States: 298,444,215
In U.S. terms 8 dead Israeli soldiers equals 376 U.S. soldiers. Think about what the U.S. would do if a terrorist organization crossed our borders and killed 376 soldiers.

[/ QUOTE ]For the umpteenth time : This is NOT like tournament poker !

The value of every chip differs according to stack size in tournament poker --- but one human life equals one human life irrespective of stack size, i.e. size of population of the tribe the human life belongs to.

If 10 Israelis are killed as opposed to 1000 Arabs, we are not supposed to mourn the Jews any less (because they are Jews) or the Arabs any less (because the Arab populatiob is more numerous). This might be important information for a general directing his troops to war but it's got nothing to do with the moral objections raised here (and the objections are about morality, rather than anything else). Those objections focus on Israel's extremely disproportionate response to Hezbollah terrorism and on Israel's consequent escalation of the violence in the Middle East.

The whole argument abt the "relative worth" of human value is a very corny strawman.

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I didn't say anything about the worth of human lives. You've seen my exchange on this topic above. I simply stated the fact that 8 Israeli dead is ~376 American dead and asked readers to think about how America would respond to an invasion that led to 376 dead.

But, never mind all that. We are about to see a whole lot more dead. What's going on reminds me of the bar scene in 'A Bronx Tale'. Anybody here see that movie? A gang of bikers acts rowdy and disrespectful in one of the 'boys' bars. They are asked nicely to leave and they flip the 'boss' off. He locks the front door and tells them 'now you can't leave!', has his back-up come in the back and they kick the crap out of the bikers. Israel has blockaded the ports, shut down the airport and bombed the road to Syria. It seems to me that they've locked the door and now Hezbollah 'can't' leave. Enter the back-up and ............
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