Typical Home Game Rake?

[Lottery Larry]

"What is wrong with props LL?"

Cody, prop players are one thing- though I'm not keen on paying them twice, I could see their utility in some cases.

Card room "owners" who are pulling in rake and playing against me, with THEIR dealers? Think about that last one for a second.

For both props and owners, they have a distinct interest in generating large pots. Can you see how you might face a bit of a disadvantage, when they profit either way?

Could that skew expected results, risk implicit collusion, and other such dangers?

I'd have to be DAMNED sure about the props and the owners before I'd be too keen about an underground room with this setup.

Word from some players that I know, about an underground club in South Philly that got busted eventually, is that the dealers would report back to the owner about your play (even looking at your discards and folds!) and THEN the owner would come sit down..... AND collect rake.

I don't say this always happens, but again I'd have to be REALLY REALLY sure about the integrity of a lot of people before I'd feel "safe" that I wasn't getting teamed. That's a lot of people to pay attention to, constantly, without all of the other players as well.

Just my thoughts. What are yours?