Omnipotence Doesn't Imply Seeing The Future.

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I didn't say creating the universe implied knowledge of all the variables, I said omniscience implied knowledge of all the variables! Which it does, by definition.

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Must've gotten you wrong here.

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Thus god necessarily knows the future, unless he himself is involved in future events.

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I disagree. I don't see why omnipotence doesn't mean knowing His actions aswell. Especially when considering that He already knows what the future will be, so there really doesn't seem to be any point in changing His mind later.


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And I didn't say omniscience denies free will either, I'm not sure where you got that from. What I said is that god's actions can not be mandated by anyone other than himself, which is a necessary condition of omnipotence. In other words, if god's actions were entirely an inevitable and thus predictable reaction to conditions within his creation, then he would no longer be omnipotent and no longer be god.

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I don't see how His knowing His own future actions denies Him of the power to choose what they'll be (or rather having chosen them in anticipation)


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And a taboo about free will? Really? What do you even mean by that?????

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Well, people are really touchy about the subject, and very often not objective. I think it's because they need free will to be what they think it is (or rather, they think it is that way because they need so).

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Free will in philosophy is just discussion as to whether actions are ultimately determined by previous events, ie if we act entirely by reaction, or if there is something within each human which exists to seperate us from that causal chain.

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Something like what? Another system that isn't causality? Could it be randomness?