Live 20/40 AKs in the CO...river play?

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Before lots of people start talking about getting 16:1 on the end I just wanted to point out we need to be good way more often than that if we are resigned to call down from the turn no matter what.

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He isn't calling down from the turn. He has the nut flush draw and an ISD. It's a very robust hand.

That being said, I'd tend to call the turn because the other caller has acted. Had he been behind, a raise would've been in order. Raising is reasonable with your redraws, but it is likely enough that you're behind that I'd prefer not to bump it. The way the hand has played the turn would likely then go to three bets. Of course, you could be free rolling another AK and a weaker club draw in which case your turn raise makes you look like a savant. I don't think that happens enough to justify a raise but we can always dream.

Call that river.

p.s. are all the limit games getting raked for $5 now or just 20/40 and above? Did they get rid of time collection for the bigger games? That's a usurious rate.