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Old 01-13-2006, 01:50 AM
guesswest guesswest is offline
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Default Re: Omnipotence Doesn\'t Imply Seeing The Future.

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Not if you(the omnipotent one) are included in that future. Its similar to building a rock you can't lift.

Also the inability to see the future perfectly does NOT mean that you can't guarantee your own promses.

If the above two statements don't have a logical flaw that I missed, I hope religious people realize that it is good for them even if their first inclination is otherwise. See why?

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If you imagine being able to infinately calculate the possible outcomes of every event and then respond to those outcomes, while existing in time, then you would see the future even though it does not exist.

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The OP was very careful to specify that this god would be, or at least could choose to be, active in the future. The reason for that is what you say, if god set the ball rolling then left it, he'd necessarily know the future just by knowledge of all the variables involved. But the wild card is god himself, he can later choose to do things, on a whim, for whatever reason, that would influence those variables - thus despite being omnipotent can't predict the future. Assuming god is active in the future, he can only have predictive power (in this model) if his actions are pre-determined, and his actions being pre-determined would refute his being omnipotent.
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